65 backwards and forwards, in the 3rd estimate...............65 is what the whole numbers from 2 - 11 add up to......including the 2 and the 11...................all clues............this is log of 3.14......for the number of primes.........again.........how might u know where to truncate the irrational numbers?.......like the square root of 2, e and pi...............the primes probably give u the clues..................2, 3, 5............etc...........b/c the irrational numbers never end.....................the decimal expansion goes on towards infinity..........do u want to write pi out the rest of your life??  I do not...........

Another clue that reflexive symmetry is imp...............165.64...................F's constant.........the sum of the p.f.................and 1/6..................using the zero dimension..........u can make it into a fraction.......works either way..........like reflexive symmetry itself....................like the derivative and the integral........................both undo each other..........they are related................the third one......like 1 and 3.........like 13................5 thirteens in 2 - 11............................10 numbers...................like the pattern for successive powers of ten...........................patterns galore............u just need to know how and why this stuff relates........which is not easy at all..................and again........this is just brain storming........take with a grain of salt............

The 1st estimate below starts out...............4.9.................4 + 9 = 13....................13 is the closest prime to the 1st zero.........which is at 1/2 + 14i................the below is based off of the log of 3.14............13........like the log of 3.14.....................oh so strange...........1.6......is how the golden ratio starts out................6 pi radian pie pieces in a full circle.......................but slightly more........the golden r........itself is slightly more than 1.6.............................165.64.............so odd..........the 3rd one........is like half the circle.........(there are basically 3 pi radian pie pieces in half a circle.......but slightly more............half a circle is pi.........pi itself is slightly greater than 3.........3.14).............which is pi...............the whole circle is 2 pi.......which the trig functions repeat every 2 pi..........like period doubling.........................................up and under.......................

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